this is the fun one......... .
health, dismemberment, death (natural and unnatural) murder and suicide..
the people at bethel were killing us spiritually.......and sometimes they killed us physically too..
sick, sick and sick
Today it's more about mental bullying and F.O.G.
Keith, I run a small machine shop. OSHA nearly shut us down a few years ago for minor offences. Mostly all having to do with machines requiring interlocked safety shields. OSHA would of shut you guys down in a NY minute it it were today 2016 !
Please tell us more about the other suicides etc. There was no follow up to your post 10 years ago. Thanks man, love you brother !
i never really knew any until recently.
as a witness we all thought they were weird.
but the two faiths are a lot alike, except the mormons are really so much nicer than the jws!.
We had a client that is Mormon, guy wealked all over me for a couple years and short changed us on many an occasion. Loud mouthed son if a bitch, would never want to deal with him again.
Towards the end what he did was withhold payment on past due invoices and then 'sell' us his 'customer' direct to wash the debt. All in all we lost about $10,000 over a five year period dealing with him. I was relieved when his regular Christian brother in law took over.
I put up with it because of : 911 and the ensuing slowdown, the favorable US / Can exchange rate in our favor, a regular monthly blanket order AND because I was a Kool-Aid drinking JW trying to be patient, forgiving and would try to witness to him about the truth...
Idiot I was, today we have waaay better customers because I put the required time into our business instead of being at endless meetings on how to wear little badges at assemblies.
i just heard the news david bowie has died ,so sad .
rip d,b, .
smiddy .
Sad, 69 years is so young. He raised a very fine son, producer of the sci fi movie Moon, Duncan Jones. They seemed close.
more about cars and n.y.c.. .
back then hundreds of cars were stolen, in the city every day!
the new york post said "the average life span of a corvette (sports car) parked on the street was 24 hours!
You bet I vote for a book from New Boy !
Joe Anderson as in Barbara's husband ? That would be GREAT ! Would love to hear about all the pluming and trades stories that went on there, screwed up jobs by incompetents and costly reworks. God's house my rear end.
Barbara is a top researcher, I'm sure she could help Joe getting some of his stories into print. I think it's awesome that they post and contribute here, thank you Joe and Barbara !
I also check in all the time on Nestor Kuilan's blog but he's not updating it regularly. That was the golden era of the WT, ah the great upheaval of '80 HISTORIC !
more about cars and n.y.c.. .
back then hundreds of cars were stolen, in the city every day!
the new york post said "the average life span of a corvette (sports car) parked on the street was 24 hours!
Love you Keith, thanks for posting up this stuff. As I said before being a machinist and practically living in my shop I can relate to your industrial experience of 'serving' at Bethel !
For you brother :
4 months ago i was conducting the watchtower study along with a long list of responsibilities that come with being an elder in a very goofy congregation.
during this time my health was going down hill.
i've always had a low blood pressure,(102/65 or abouts) but for the past year it had creeped up to 135/90 range.. so 2 months ago after learning ttatt, i'm still considered an elder because the brothers won't let me step down, but i haven't done anything in that time except comment once at a meeting a few weeks ago.
Prior to my baptism in '02 I was a high level weekend warrior athlete. By the time '08 came around was an out of shape nervous wreck that had given up on life and had lost 20 lbs. My BP was sky high and my face and thighs were often flushed red. Wake up call was a little overnight trip to the hospital on suicide watch and from that point on decided to take back control of my life and not let others do it for me.
The next couple years were hard getting my business functioning well again but made it through, gained a bit too much weight in the process but am now running and training, take a BP as well as anti anxiety med and do ok when I get regular sleep. The anxiety simply is genetic as I was a hyperactive kid. I just need to keep moving and all is good. The act of trying to be a good little JW people pleaser took it's toll on me but my aim is to bounce back stronger than ever. I started my fade in the spring of 2010 but stayed in mentally thanks to obsessive guilt till last year. This summer was my true turning point with the ARC and spent more time researching TTATT then I have ever done.
Professional counseling was what I needed back in 2000 and not the self serving solution touted by the WTBTS
well it is 4:00 a.m. in the morning and i can't sleep, so might has well write..
everything at bethel is seniority........"how long have you been here?
you really wanted to be the man with no name a.k.a.thx-1138.
jt further expounds on why we left the watchtower.
why we left the jehovah's witnesses part 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpqctuhmv08.
Well said Wannexit, I've noticed that too. There is the young ' in ' crowd still living at home with disposable income for nice cars and a full wardrobe of new clothes, most have great teeth ( thanks to braces from parents ) and have trades or good jobs. The party will be over once they move out and get married. Then you have the their parents in the 50 + age group. Hardly anyone left in the 30-50 group but born ins that stuck it out for family and friends.
Anyhow good for her to be awake and see it for what it is !
remember the video of all the nice dudes who were on the governing body in the 70s?
(here's a refresher).. well this is what their lives were really like - the same as when i was there.
by the time it got to the end, all was left was chicken backs.
Keith would be great for you to get together with Brock Talon, he put a book out on his Bethel stay of the early eighties a year or two ago. I'm sure he could give you some tips on how to put one together. He's on the forum here uses same name. Anyhow thanks again as I sais earlier your stories open the door for me to walk away from this sad cult.
On edit : Sorry Keith I shouldn't of bumped this thread. Hopefully it will just stay down I've been enjoying your recent refresher on your other post and hope others get to read it there for the first time. Sorry about that everyone.
